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Re: Starting Strength Program
« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2009, 04:08:53 PM »
Watch a toddler pick up something and you will see a perfect squat.
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Re: Starting Strength Program
« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2009, 07:19:51 PM »
Good article Woodsy  :thumbsup:
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Re: Starting Strength Program
« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2009, 11:59:14 PM »
Not everyone can achieve full depth perfect squat form. As FF said at a certain point long legged people lean to far forward causing th weight to end up ina good morning than a squat position.
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Re: Starting Strength Program
« Reply #48 on: August 14, 2009, 11:03:46 AM »
You are a good example of diligant work.
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Re: Starting Strength Program
« Reply #49 on: August 14, 2009, 11:45:46 AM »
Y&S, they can still stick their butt backwards, push their knees out a bit, and get deep in the squat. It looks a little different but it is still a good squat.

The only reason tall people are considered worse squatters than shorter people is due to the extra work needed. Because their limbs are longer it means a stronger force (torque) is required to move the limb angularly to full extension.
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« Reply #50 on: August 14, 2009, 01:01:04 PM »
It wouldn't make any difference it the person was tall or short.
What y&s is hinting at is leg length versus upper body length.

A short torso'd long legged person will (squatting correctly)automatically tend to lean forward to keep the bar over and inlign with the point of the feet to maintian the optimum leverage.
At the bottom of the squat and looking side on draw a line from the bar to the feet, the line should end roughly in the middle of the foot.
A short legged man with a longer torso has the advantage as he is able to stay more upright.
As I said before it's ironical the the shorter torso'd person will have a stronger back - if he squats correctly. And takes his time which will be much longer than his counterpart.
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Re: Starting Strength Program
« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2009, 01:06:04 PM »
I see what you mean.

I still wouldn't call it bad squat form though.
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Re: Starting Strength Program
« Reply #52 on: August 14, 2009, 01:09:47 PM »
When I say "takes time" I mean the the person with the shorter torso will take much longer to get to a bodyweight barbell back squat than the bloke.
But in the process he will have biult a much much stronger back.
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Re: Starting Strength Program
« Reply #53 on: August 14, 2009, 01:13:55 PM »
I see what you mean.

I still wouldn't call it bad squat form though.

not at all woodsy, it's just that the person with the shorter torso has to be more mindfull of hip tuck and general rounding of the back. If he progresses to quickly in weight is all.
This sort of person would benefit from using a leg press as a supplement exercise.
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Re: Starting Strength Program
« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2009, 10:42:16 PM »
It wouldn't make any difference it the person was tall or short.
What y&s is hinting at is leg length versus upper body length.

A short torso'd long legged person will (squatting correctly)automatically tend to lean forward to keep the bar over and inlign with the point of the feet to maintian the optimum leverage.
At the bottom of the squat and looking side on draw a line from the bar to the feet, the line should end roughly in the middle of the foot.
A short legged man with a longer torso has the advantage as he is able to stay more upright.
As I said before it's ironical the the shorter torso'd person will have a stronger back - if he squats correctly. And takes his time which will be much longer than his counterpart.

Firefox, your comment above is 100% on the money Sir! Thank you.


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Re: Starting Strength Program
« Reply #55 on: November 14, 2009, 08:15:13 AM »
Thank you sir!
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